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  1. 20 Dec '17 23:02
    Isn't is strange how quickly ISIS was defeated once Obama was gone? Russia pulling out of Syria. Why has the MSM been quiet on this?
  2. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    20 Dec '17 23:16
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Isn't is strange how quickly ISIS was defeated once Obama was gone? Russia pulling out of Syria. Why has the MSM been quiet on this?
    ISIS has been losing territory since 2014 when the US and other nations started bombing it and supporting its enemies. This article is from 2015:

    Obama defended his strategy of training and equipping thousands of Iraqi and Syrian rebel forces who are fighting ISIS on the ground while the U.S.—and in recent weeks France and Britain—provides close air support and airstrikes. Obama has sent 3,500 military trainers to Iraq and several hundred U.S. special operations forces to Syria.

    And he pushed back against Republicans who charge that Obama’s strategy is feckless. He denounced the idea of a major role for U.S. combat troops. (Most Republican presidential candidates, with the notable exception of Lindsey Graham, share his view.) “We should not be drawn once more into a long and costly ground war in Iraq and Syria,” Obama said. “That’s what groups like ISIL want us to do.” He said the jihadis know that under another American occupation, “they can maintain insurgencies for years, killing thousands of our troops, draining our resources and using our presence to draw new recruits.”

    Turning the tables on his critics, he called on the Republican-controlled House and Senate to authorize the use of military force against ISIS in Iraq and Syria. Obama maintains he’s already got the authority to wage war against the group under Congress’s approval of the war resolution against Al-Qaeda in 2001. But he’s asking for a new authorization because it would force Republicans to take some political ownership of a conflict that they’ve been happy to criticize without consequence.

    http://www.newsweek.com/address-obama-vows-overcome-terrorist-threat-401796
  3. 21 Dec '17 01:37
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    ISIS has been losing territory since 2014 when the US and other nations started bombing it and supporting its enemies. This article is from 2015:

    Obama defended his strategy of training and equipping thousands of Iraqi and Syrian rebel forces who are fighting ISIS on the ground while the U.S.—and in recent weeks France and Britain—provides close air ...[text shortened]... hout consequence.

    http://www.newsweek.com/address-obama-vows-overcome-terrorist-threat-401796
    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-war-isis-dramatically-accelerated-coalition-gains-iraq-and-syria-646962

    Obama described ISIS as a JV team LOL
  4. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    21 Dec '17 01:43
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-war-isis-dramatically-accelerated-coalition-gains-iraq-and-syria-646962

    Obama described ISIS as a JV team LOL
    It's hardly surprising that Trump administration officials make exaggerated claims while acknowledging that most of the gains against ISIS preceded his inauguration. ISIS' territorial empire has been doomed for years; they were vastly outnumbered by their enemies and their defeat was inevitable. Trump taking credit is like the second string QB claiming he won the game after he came in with his team ahead 52-0.
  5. 21 Dec '17 01:55
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    It's hardly surprising that Trump administration officials make exaggerated claims while acknowledging that most of the gains against ISIS preceded his inauguration. ISIS' territorial empire has been doomed for years; they were vastly outnumbered by their enemies and their defeat was inevitable. Trump taking credit is like the second string QB claiming he won the game after he came in with his team ahead 52-0.
    Argue with Newsweek...

    "Brett McGurk, the special presidential envoy for the global coalition to defeat ISIS, in a briefing with reporters said that Trump’s strategy in the battle against the jihadist group in Iraq and Syria had “dramatically accelerated” progress in the campaign.
    “Nearly 30 percent of all the territory that has been retaken from ISIS—about 20,000 square kilometers—has actually happened in the last six months,” he said."
  6. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    21 Dec '17 02:19
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Argue with Newsweek...

    "Brett McGurk, the special presidential envoy for the global coalition to defeat ISIS, in a briefing with reporters said that Trump’s strategy in the battle against the jihadist group in Iraq and Syria had “dramatically accelerated” progress in the campaign.
    “Nearly 30 percent of all the territory that has been retaken from ISIS—about 20,000 square kilometers—has actually happened in the last six months,” he said."
    They are quoting a Trump administration official ........................ and one who concedes most of the territorial gains against ISIS happened before Trump became President.
  7. 21 Dec '17 03:02
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Isn't is strange how quickly ISIS was defeated once Obama was gone? Russia pulling out of Syria. Why has the MSM been quiet on this?
    That's nothing compared with how quickly the USA won (no credit given to its allies)
    the Second World War after President Roosevelt died on 12 April 1945. (sarcasm)
  8. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    21 Dec '17 04:07 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Isn't is strange how quickly ISIS was defeated once Obama was gone? Russia pulling out of Syria. Why has the MSM been quiet on this?
    Well my mate and INFO WARTS says you only need one scary narrative to keep the folks shopping. With Trump and Putin and Flynn and Comey and Mueller and the Tax Reform and all the males being exposed for exposing themselves, you wouldn't want to distract people so much they became that paralysed with concern that the stopped shopping.

    Let things quieten a bit on the homefront and before you can say Kushner is a doosh, you might suddenly find against all the odds a small band of offshoot terrorists selling MSM programs again.
  9. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    21 Dec '17 06:40
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Isn't is strange how quickly ISIS was defeated once Obama was gone? Russia pulling out of Syria. Why has the MSM been quiet on this?
    If only he hadn't had those heel-spurs the US would have won the Vietnam War!
  10. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    21 Dec '17 09:49
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    "Brett McGurk, "
    Really? Is that really a name?
    Who the hell calls their kid Brett? What the God-damned-failed-abortion sort of a trailer trash name is that?

    Brett sounds like the sort of classy guy who has extramarital affairs which get leaked by his best friends as a hazing gag...
  11. Subscriber mchill
    cryptogram
    21 Dec '17 10:35
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Isn't is strange how quickly ISIS was defeated once Obama was gone? Russia pulling out of Syria. Why has the MSM been quiet on this?
    I'm getting the distinct impression that if Trump And Co. told you the sky was orange and the grass was pink, you'd be reporting that to us as well.
  12. 21 Dec '17 11:40
    Originally posted by @shavixmir
    Really? Is that really a name?
    Who the hell calls their kid Brett? What the God-damned-failed-abortion sort of a trailer trash name is that?

    Brett sounds like the sort of classy guy who has extramarital affairs which get leaked by his best friends as a hazing gag...
    have a little booze last night?

    this may help...

    https://www.angerclassonline.com/
  13. 21 Dec '17 11:41
    Originally posted by @kmax87
    Well my mate and INFO WARTS says you only need one scary narrative to keep the folks shopping. With Trump and Putin and Flynn and Comey and Mueller and the Tax Reform and all the males being exposed for exposing themselves, you wouldn't want to distract people so much they became that paralysed with concern that the stopped shopping.

    Let things quieten a ...[text shortened]... ddenly find against all the odds a small band of offshoot terrorists selling MSM programs again.
    nonsensical
  14. 21 Dec '17 11:55
    Originally posted by @mchill
    I'm getting the distinct impression that if Trump And Co. told you the sky was orange and the grass was pink, you'd be reporting that to us as well.
    Trump stopped BLM too didn't he?
  15. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    21 Dec '17 14:39
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Trump stopped BLM too didn't he?
    If you ever meet Trump, give him a big kiss to show all of us how much you love him.