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  1. 01 Feb '14 01:16 / 2 edits
    This seems US centric but some ideas include non-US places/peoples we could come and get.

    The most inclusive list of possibilities is at

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/51st_state

    But

    http://io9.com/5915419/the-55-states-of-america-the-5-places-that-could-become-us-states-in-your-lifetime

    Has some interesting ideas including Cuba and the UK!

    Then there are parts of states that could be allowed to secede and become states in themselves. The State of Jefferson in California, and the state of South Florida.

    There's some US territories out there, and there's mention of them and the Philippines and Taiwan.

    On the other hand the rest of us could ask some states to secede and become independent countries. Ideas?
  2. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    01 Feb '14 01:23
    Great Britain would be 2-5 states. Scotland England Wales Ireland Ulster.

    Puerto Rico is the most likely new State.
  3. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    01 Feb '14 01:34
    Originally posted by JS357
    This seems US centric but some ideas include non-US places/peoples we could come and get.

    The most inclusive list of possibilities is at

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/51st_state

    But

    http://io9.com/5915419/the-55-states-of-america-the-5-places-that-could-become-us-states-in-your-lifetime

    Has some interesting ideas including Cuba and the UK!

    Th ...[text shortened]... r hand the rest of us could ask some states to secede and become independent countries. Ideas?
    As ATY suggests, Puerto Rico is the most likely choice. Nothing else is likely. Although the thought of portions of certain states seceding to form new states is intriguing. California should probably be broken up on principle alone. And, of course, everyone hopes that Texas will be allowed to secede from the nation.
  4. 01 Feb '14 02:05 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by rwingett
    As ATY suggests, Puerto Rico is the most likely choice. Nothing else is likely. Although the thought of portions of certain states seceding to form new states is intriguing. California should probably be broken up on principle alone. And, of course, everyone hopes that Texas will be allowed to secede from the nation.
    Cut it out, realist. Pragmatic short term analysis will kill this thread. This is for speculation and spleen-venting and jump-starting Manifest Destiny.
  5. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    01 Feb '14 06:47
    Originally posted by JS357
    Cut it out, realist. Pragmatic short term analysis will kill this thread. This is for speculation and spleen-venting and jump-starting Manifest Destiny.
    We gotta take Mexico then.
  6. 01 Feb '14 07:47
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    We gotta take Mexico then.
    Yes, we gotta take the world, eventually, but some of them will be territories without congressional representation, longer than others. Others may never realize they've been taken. Need a plan.
  7. Subscriber Ponderable
    chemist
    01 Feb '14 09:12
    Why not rename the whole thing USW?

    United States of the World

    The NSA is already in place as worldwide secret service.
  8. 01 Feb '14 18:09
    The US can't even take care of what it has and it wants to add more states?
  9. 02 Feb '14 16:50
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    We gotta take Mexico then.
    Mexico is taking you .
  10. 02 Feb '14 17:37
    Originally posted by phil3000
    Mexico is taking you .
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17821781
  11. 02 Feb '14 18:29 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17821781
    "Of the nation's children in 2050, 62% are expected to be of a minority ethnicity, up from 44% today. Approximately 39% are projected to be Hispanic or Latino (up from 22% in 2008), and 38% are projected to be single-race, non-Hispanic Whites (down from 56% in 2008)."

    An Older and More Diverse Nation by Midcentury at the Wayback Machine (archived August 22, 2008), U.S. Census Press Releases, 14 August 2008 (archived from the original on 2008-08-22)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States
  12. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    02 Feb '14 18:34
    Every wave of immigrants is said to be "taking over America" from Irish to Chinese but the USA is still dominant. Those people are becoming Americans not taking over America.
  13. Standard member wittywonka
    Chocolate Expert
    02 Feb '14 22:40
    Originally posted by JS357
    Ideas?
    Washington, D.C.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_taxation_without_representation#Modern_use_in_the_United_States
  14. Subscriber Ponderable
    chemist
    05 Feb '14 09:41
    Originally posted by JS357
    "Of the nation's children in 2050, 62% are expected to be of a minority ethnicity, up from 44% today. Approximately 39% are projected to be Hispanic or Latino (up from 22% in 2008), and 38% are projected to be single-race, non-Hispanic Whites (down from 56% in 2008)."

    An Older and More Diverse Nation by Midcentury at the Wayback Machine (archived August 22, ...[text shortened]... om the original on 2008-08-22)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States
    So if latinos constitute 39% of the pouplation and whites 38% you can hardly say that the Lations are a minority?
  15. Standard member caissad4
    Child of the Novelty
    05 Feb '14 10:03
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Every wave of immigrants is said to be "taking over America" from Irish to Chinese but the USA is still dominant. Those people are becoming Americans not taking over America.
    Except for Mexicans.