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  1. 25 Nov '15 14:42 / 2 edits
    http://hotair.com/archives/2015/11/24/obama-what-a-powerful-rebuke-it-will-be-to-isis-to-hold-a-climate-change-summit-in-paris/

    That's right, Obama is figting ISIS with a climate change summitt.

    Obama: What a “powerful rebuke” it will be to ISIS to hold a climate-change summit in Paris

    Asked Guy Benson, “Is he saying the climate conference is the rebuke to terrorists, or unbowed world leaders gathering in Paris?” The answer is both, right? Partly this is stiff-upper-lip stuff of the sort you always hear from a head of state after a major attack. “We refuse to be terrorized by terror, we will carry on as we always did,” etc. They had a conference planned, and no scumbag jihadi is going to intimidate them out of holding it. Fine.

    But yeah, of course the subject of the conference gives this extra resonance to Obama. The international political class thinks climate change is the policy problem of this generation. The future of humanity supposedly hangs in the balance. What better way to rebuke apocalyptic barbarians than by meeting to stave off the “real” apocalypse? Remember, on the left it’s conventional wisdom that climate change helped instigate the Syrian civil war: A sustained drought created social unrest that provided the kindling and then the Arab Spring struck the match. But for global warming, there might not be an ISIS. (But for Obama pulling out U.S. troops from Iraq in 2011 in time for his reelection campaign, there might not be an ISIS either. Some root causes are easier to discuss than others.) That’s probably what O’s thinking here — that the conference, in part, is about preventing the rise of future ISISes. And yet the fact remains that you’ve got a group of world leaders coming to a western city that’s been hit twice this year by major terror attacks to talk about something other than those attacks at a moment when westerners are increasingly worried about ISIS and assimilation of Muslim immigrants. It’d be like holding a world summit in lower Manhattan in late September 2001 to talk about trade policy. Important issue. Not top priority.

    But it’s pointless to complain. Sometime between election night 2012 and summer 2014, this guy entered DGAF mode and he hasn’t looked back. Lay off him about his priorities or he’ll remind you again of what a terrible American you are.
  2. 25 Nov '15 14:47 / 4 edits
    So if climate change is the issue with terrorism, why was Obama supplying ISIS and other Syrian rebels with arms?

    Shouldn't be be sending them water or air conditioners or something?

    I realize that their main objective currently is transforming world government economies away from any form of free trade and growth, all done upon the premise of saving mother earth, but this sort of propaganda to accomplish this I think is only hurting their cause. It's just makes them look plain stupid.
  3. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    25 Nov '15 20:15
    Originally posted by whodey
    So if climate change is the issue with terrorism, why was Obama supplying ISIS and other Syrian rebels with arms?

    Shouldn't be be sending them water or air conditioners or something?

    I realize that their main objective currently is transforming world government economies away from any form of free trade and growth, all done upon the premise of saving mo ...[text shortened]... to accomplish this I think is only hurting their cause. It's just makes them look plain stupid.
    Your creation of Strawman arguments make you look plain stupid (probably that look is accurate).
  4. 25 Nov '15 20:17
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Your creation of Strawman arguments make you look plain stupid (probably that look is accurate).
    So is it your contention that terrorism is not caused by climate change?
  5. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    25 Nov '15 20:20 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    So is it your contention that terrorism is not caused by climate change?
    We've had this conversation. That formulation is a Strawman. From p. 3 of the "Bernie Sanders says ..................." thread:

    “In fact, climate change is directly related to the growth of terrorism,” said Sanders.

    Does that say that climate change is "THE" cause of terrorism?

    There are multiple causes of the rise of violent Islamic extremists. There seems to be a direct link between the Syrian drought and the Syrian civil war with ISIS as a main player. The US meddling in Iraq created close to a 1 million refugees in Syria and caused the creation of AQ in Iraq which was the building block for ISIS. There are other factors as well.

    Sorry, it's not as simple as "Islam bad".
  6. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    25 Nov '15 22:14
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://hotair.com/archives/2015/11/24/obama-what-a-powerful-rebuke-it-will-be-to-isis-to-hold-a-climate-change-summit-in-paris/

    That's right, Obama is figting ISIS with a climate change summitt.

    Obama: What a “powerful rebuke” it will be to ISIS to hold a climate-change summit in Paris

    Asked Guy Benson, “Is he saying the climate conference is the re ...[text shortened]... Lay off him about his priorities or he’ll remind you again of what a terrible American you are.
    Whodey....if a woman turned you down for a date, you'd blame that on Obama too.
  7. 25 Nov '15 22:23
    Originally posted by whodey
    So if climate change is the issue with terrorism, why was Obama supplying ISIS and other Syrian rebels with arms?

    Shouldn't be be sending them water or air conditioners or something?

    I realize that their main objective currently is transforming world government economies away from any form of free trade and growth, all done upon the premise of saving mo ...[text shortened]... to accomplish this I think is only hurting their cause. It's just makes them look plain stupid.
    Or call it what it is. The US backs ISIS in order to create more chaos in the middle east in hope that the world will still use petro dollars in the aftermath. If Obama wants to fight terrorism he should turn himself in.
  8. 25 Nov '15 23:28
    Originally posted by bill718
    Whodey....if a woman turned you down for a date, you'd blame that on Obama too.
    So that's why you can't get laid.
  9. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    26 Nov '15 03:55
    Originally posted by bill718
    Whodey....if a woman turned you down for a date, you'd blame that on Obama too.
    That makes more sense than you guys blaming everything that goes wrong on George W. Bush.
  10. 26 Nov '15 08:36
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://hotair.com/archives/2015/11/24/obama-what-a-powerful-rebuke-it-will-be-to-isis-to-hold-a-climate-change-summit-in-paris/

    That's right, Obama is figting ISIS with a climate change summitt.

    Obama: What a “powerful rebuke” it will be to ISIS to hold a climate-change summit in Paris

    Asked Guy Benson, “Is he saying the climate conference is the re ...[text shortened]... Lay off him about his priorities or he’ll remind you again of what a terrible American you are.
    is that the only thing he did? or is that simply the latest thing in a list of things he did because he is not the one dimensional caricature you portray him to be.
  11. 26 Nov '15 12:28
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    We've had this conversation. That formulation is a Strawman. From p. 3 of the "Bernie Sanders says ..................." thread:

    “In fact, climate change is directly related to the growth of terrorism,” said Sanders.

    Does that say that climate change is "THE" cause of terrorism?

    There are multiple causes of the rise of violent Islamic extremists. ...[text shortened]... ng block for ISIS. There are other factors as well.

    Sorry, it's not as simple as "Islam bad".
    There seems to be a direct link between the Syrian drought and terrorism?

    Really? What exactly is that?
  12. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    26 Nov '15 13:08 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    There seems to be a direct link between the Syrian drought and terrorism?

    Really? What exactly is that?
    Re-read the other thread; I see no reason to cut and paste the posts made by myself and RWingett there.

    Do you deliberately go out of your way to remain ignorant of basic facts even when others point them out directly to you?

    EDIT: Your own OP pointed out the argument though being right wingers they dismiss it without discussion:

    A sustained drought created social unrest that provided the kindling and then the Arab Spring struck the match
  13. 26 Nov '15 16:01 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Re-read the other thread; I see no reason to cut and paste the posts made by myself and RWingett there.

    Do you deliberately go out of your way to remain ignorant of basic facts even when others point them out directly to you?

    EDIT: Your own OP pointed out the argument though being right wingers they dismiss it without discussion:

    A sustained d ...[text shortened]... ought created social unrest that provided the kindling and then the Arab Spring struck the match
    So the drought in the Middle East caused Islamic French citizens to commit acts of terrorism?

    Bilal Hadfi, 20 - French (living in Belgium)


    Ismaël Omar Mostefaï, 29 - French


    Samy Amimour, 28 - French


    Ibrahim Abdeslam, 31 - French (living in Belgium)


    Salah Abdeslam, 26 - French (living in Belgium)


    Hamza Attou, 21 - Belgian


    Mohamed Amri, 27 - Belgian (born in Morocco)
  14. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    27 Nov '15 01:26
    Obama does not know how to fight ISIS and he will not turn it over to someone that does.
  15. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    27 Nov '15 01:38
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://hotair.com/archives/2015/11/24/obama-what-a-powerful-rebuke-it-will-be-to-isis-to-hold-a-climate-change-summit-in-paris/

    That's right, Obama is figting ISIS with a climate change summitt.

    Obama: What a “powerful rebuke” it will be to ISIS to hold a climate-change summit in Paris

    Asked Guy Benson, “Is he saying the climate conference is the re ...[text shortened]... Lay off him about his priorities or he’ll remind you again of what a terrible American you are.
    Would you rather that he fight ISIS like the Russians do? By dropping bombs on legitimate Syrian rebel forces?

    But go ahead, continue comparing apples and oranges.