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    09 Mar '19 22:00
    https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2019/02/20/lgbtq-sports-group-expels-martina-navratilova-after-transgender-criticism/

    Men who later transition to be women tend to be superior athletes. They are simply stronger due to the differences between the sexes. This is a biological fact and it gives men an advantage, which is why men don't compete against women in such things as tennis.

    Martina Navratilova, a former gay tennis player, came out and said as much, as she is now being shunned by the LGTB community.

    The Left cares nothing about science, it's all about agenda.
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    "Academia? Nuke it from orbit." - whodey
  3. Zugzwang
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    09 Mar '19 23:17
    @whodey said
    https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2019/02/20/lgbtq-sports-group-expels-martina-navratilova-after-transgender-criticism/

    Men who later transition to be women tend to be superior athletes. They are simply stronger due to the differences between the sexes. This is a biological fact and it gives men an advantage, which is why men don't compete against women in such things as t ...[text shortened]... being shunned by the LGTB community.

    The Left cares nothing about science, it's all about agenda.
    Breitbart (which Whodey adores) is far from being an objective factual source about anything.

    "Men who later transition to be women tend to be superior athletes."
    --Whodey

    I already have quoted or cited books referring to scientific studies that have concluded otherwise.
  4. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    10 Mar '19 00:23
    @whodey said
    https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2019/02/20/lgbtq-sports-group-expels-martina-navratilova-after-transgender-criticism/

    Men who later transition to be women tend to be superior athletes. They are simply stronger due to the differences between the sexes. This is a biological fact and it gives men an advantage, which is why men don't compete against women in such things as t ...[text shortened]... being shunned by the LGTB community.

    The Left cares nothing about science, it's all about agenda.
    "The Left" who do you mean?

    I completely support Navratillova's position, Sharon Davies
    (Olympic medallist) in UK has come out with similar statements.

    Some (not all) women who have transitioned from a man have
    an unfair advantage having been on testosterone for years.
    It is unfortunate for those transgender athletes but I cannot see a solution.
    Perhaps they should just compete against other transgenders?

    Similarly we do not allow wheelchair athletes
    to compete against able-bodied in marathons.

    PS Have I lost my "Left" status?
  5. Standard membercaissad4
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    10 Mar '19 00:34
    @wolfgang59 said
    "The Left" who do you mean?

    I completely support Navratillova's position, Sharon Davies
    (Olympic medallist) in UK has come out with similar statements.

    Some (not all) women who have transitioned from a man have
    an unfair advantage having been on testosterone for years.
    It is unfortunate for those transgender athletes but I cannot see a solution.
    Perhaps they sh ...[text shortened]... eelchair athletes
    to compete against able-bodied in marathons.

    PS Have I lost my "Left" status?
    That is an opinion, not science.
    I have met several Lesbians who harbor an almost irrational negative attitude towards people like myself. Parroting ignorant opinions does a disservice to everyone involved.
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    10 Mar '19 00:45
    @whodey said
    https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2019/02/20/lgbtq-sports-group-expels-martina-navratilova-after-transgender-criticism/

    Men who later transition to be women tend to be superior athletes. They are simply stronger due to the differences between the sexes. This is a biological fact and it gives men an advantage, which is why men don't compete against women in such things as t ...[text shortened]... being shunned by the LGTB community.

    The Left cares nothing about science, it's all about agenda.
    You are a moron !
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    10 Mar '19 00:58
    @whodey said
    https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2019/02/20/lgbtq-sports-group-expels-martina-navratilova-after-transgender-criticism/

    Men who later transition to be women tend to be superior athletes. They are simply stronger due to the differences between the sexes. This is a biological fact and it gives men an advantage, which is why men don't compete against women in such things as t ...[text shortened]... being shunned by the LGTB community.

    The Left cares nothing about science, it's all about agenda.
    Ah, so people are human after all. Got it.
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    10 Mar '19 02:16
    @wolfgang59 said
    "The Left" who do you mean?

    I completely support Navratillova's position, Sharon Davies
    (Olympic medallist) in UK has come out with similar statements.

    Some (not all) women who have transitioned from a man have
    an unfair advantage having been on testosterone for years.
    It is unfortunate for those transgender athletes but I cannot see a solution.
    Perhaps they sh ...[text shortened]... eelchair athletes
    to compete against able-bodied in marathons.

    PS Have I lost my "Left" status?
    Well people like Duchy would argue that all those years with tesoterone flowing through their bodies does not given them an advantage. LOL.

    So why not have a transgender competition?

    To hell with it, if there are no differences between the sexes, just let the men and women compete together and see how things pan out.

    Then the truth will be undeniable.
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    10 Mar '19 03:32
    @mghrn55 said
    You are a moron !
    Well said. The only real answer to Whodey which serves any purpose (making me happy).
  10. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    10 Mar '19 03:39
    @caissad4 said
    That is an opinion, not science.
    I have met several Lesbians who harbor an almost irrational negative attitude towards people like myself. Parroting ignorant opinions does a disservice to everyone involved.
    I think it is more than an opinion.
    What happens to the muscle mass of a male athlete when they trans
    to a female? I sympathise but in many cases it is simply unfair for
    them to compete with women who have always been women.
  11. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    10 Mar '19 03:42
    @whodey
    Why not make a post where
    * you do not second guess the opinions of others.
    * you provide your opinion with reasons.
    * you do not ask questions then answer them on behalf of others.

    .. just a thought.
  12. Standard membercaissad4
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    10 Mar '19 06:28
    @wolfgang59 said
    I think it is more than an opinion.
    What happens to the muscle mass of a male athlete when they trans
    to a female? I sympathise but in many cases it is simply unfair for
    them to compete with women who have always been women.
    You are wrong.
    Within 12 months after GRS surgery muscle mass is very similar to born women.
    Many born women have elevated testosterone levels. Some very high.
    Should born women with high testosterone levels be prohibited from competing against women who have normal range testosterone levels ? Is it fair ?
    Should born men with high testosterone levels be prohibited from competing against men who have normal range testosterone levels ? Is it fair ?
    If you want to present an intelligent opinion on this matter, you should really do some research prior to tossing out an opinion.
    Otherwise you look like Whodey jr.
  13. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    10 Mar '19 08:33
    @caissad4 said
    If you want to present an intelligent opinion on this matter, you should really do some research prior to tossing out an opinion.
    Otherwise you look like Whodey jr.
    I have.
    I'm nothing like whodey.
    And being transgender doesn't make you always right.
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