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  1. Standard memberSleepyguy
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    04 Oct '18 03:381 edit
    Who suffers more, a rape victim, or a person falsely accused of rape?

    Edit: Everyone but Duchess chime in.
  2. Subscriberno1marauder
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    04 Oct '18 03:41
    @sleepyguy said
    Who suffers more, a rape victim, or a person falsely accused of rape?
    Which would you prefer to be?
  3. Standard memberSleepyguy
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    @no1marauder said
    Which would you prefer to be?
    I would rather be a rape victim, because after the trauma the whole world would sympathize and be on my side. I could keep my job and good reputation, and go on with life.

    A person falsely accused is also violated in a way, but they can never restore their reputation fully, may lose their livelihood, and it lasts forever.
  4. Standard membervivify
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    04 Oct '18 04:21
    Good thing no one in the news has been falsely accused lately.
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    04 Oct '18 04:333 edits
    @sleepyguy said
    I would rather be a rape victim, because after the trauma the whole world would sympathize and be on my side. I could keep my job and good reputation, and go on with life.

    A person falsely accused is also violated in a way, but they can never restore their reputation fully, may lose their livelihood, and it lasts forever.
    The extremely sexist Sleepyguy shows no comprehension or
    concern about the common shaming and stigmatizing of rape victims.

    Scientific studies have found that rape victims are several
    times more likely than combat veterans to develop PTSD.
    It's common for rape victims to struggle to ward off impulses toward suicide.

    Only in Sleepyguy's hypocritical fantasyland does a rape victim
    supposedly enjoy universal support. In real life, hateful sexists
    like Sleepyguy are eager to vilify women like Christine Blasey
    Ford for daring to accuse powerful white men of assaulting them.

    Sleepyguy might pretend that he would be fine being a teenage girl who has
    been raped and impregnated and--in his ideal world--,compelled to continue
    her unwanted pregnancy until she gives birth. No one should believe it.
  6. SubscriberTom Wolsey
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    04 Oct '18 04:53
    The Democrats cried when Hillary failed to win the election. You know. Hillary Clinton... the woman that launched a smear campaign against Monica Lewinsky, Juanita Broaddrick, and Paula Jones when they came forward with allegations including sexual harassment, assault, and rape?
  7. Standard membershavixmir
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    04 Oct '18 04:55
    Me. Having to listen your pathetic whining.
  8. Standard memberwittywonka
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    04 Oct '18 05:051 edit
    @sleepyguy said
    I would rather be a rape victim, because after the trauma the whole world would sympathize and be on my side. I could keep my job and good reputation, and go on with life.

    A person falsely accused is also violated in a way, but they can never restore their reputation fully, may lose their livelihood, and it lasts forever.
    The way you casually gloss over "after the trauma" and suggest that rape survivors simply "go on with life" and sustain a "good reputation" is very telling.
  9. SubscriberSuzianne
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    04 Oct '18 07:311 edit
    @sleepyguy said
    I would rather be a rape victim, because after the trauma the whole world would sympathize and be on my side. I could keep my job and good reputation, and go on with life.

    A person falsely accused is also violated in a way, but they can never restore their reputation fully, may lose their livelihood, and it lasts forever.
    Spoken like a white man who knows he will never be a rape victim.
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    04 Oct '18 08:02
    @sleepyguy said
    I would rather be a rape victim, because after the trauma the whole world would sympathize and be on my side. I could keep my job and good reputation, and go on with life.

    A person falsely accused is also violated in a way, but they can never restore their reputation fully, may lose their livelihood, and it lasts forever.
    True. A reputation cannot be restored and moving away to escape the slander is expensive. The stress could also affect health and may even kill you if you have a heart condition or something like that.
    That is how damaging presumption of guilt can be. It is life shattering.
  11. SubscriberSuzianne
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    @metal-brain said
    True. A reputation cannot be restored and moving away to escape the slander is expensive. The stress could also affect health and may even kill you if you have a heart condition or something like that.
    That is how damaging presumption of guilt can be. It is life shattering.
    Why don't you tell us how life-shattering it is to be raped, to be violated on a deeply personal level? Oh, that's right, you're a white male, you will never know what that's like. You expect women to cry over your fear of being "slandered" and not believed? Oh, please.
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    @shavixmir said
    Me. Having to listen your pathetic whining.
    you just tell me who is forcing you to read these postings and I will smack them good...LMFAO...idiot!
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    @suzianne said
    Why don't you tell us how life-shattering it is to be raped, to be violated on a deeply personal level? Oh, that's right, you're a white male, you will never know what that's like. You expect women to cry over your fear of being "slandered" and not believed? Oh, please.
    you think males aren't raped?
  14. Standard membersh76
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    04 Oct '18 11:56
    @suzianne said
    Why don't you tell us how life-shattering it is to be raped, to be violated on a deeply personal level? Oh, that's right, you're a white male, you will never know what that's like. You expect women to cry over your fear of being "slandered" and not believed? Oh, please.
    A. Men get raped (sometimes in prison, perhaps sometimes after being sent to prison on false rape charges)

    B. Do you know what it's like to be a man whose life has been ruined by a rape allegation?
  15. SubscriberSuzianne
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    @sh76 said
    A. Men get raped (sometimes in prison, perhaps sometimes after being sent to prison on false rape charges)

    B. Do you know what it's like to be a man whose life has been ruined by a rape allegation?
    For any particular given man, do you think it is more likely that: a) they will be raped, or that b) they will rape someone themselves?
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