Originally posted by Finnegan to Krod Mandoon
There are many true statements on that putrid site. They are strung together selectively and in an irrational and distorted way to generate a mad conspiracy theory which will keep your children awake at night.
It is of course true for example that white, middle class men are losing the top dog status they used to enjoy in US politics and ...[text shortened]... re to fade from this forum and take your lying arguments with you, that would be an added bonus.
"...as Latin Americans become a growing part of the US population, they will
be more amenable to the socialist and progressive policies of Latin America..."
First of all, Latinos in the United States are very diverse. Traditionally, for
instance, the Cuban community has been politically dominated by old hard
right-wing men who put their hatred of Communism in Cuba above all else.
Some younger Cubans born in the USA seem less obsessed by that cause.
What you (Finnegan) don't seem to take into account is the transformative
process of 'Americanization' and how it usually affects children in immigrant families.
I can assure you that many, if not most, US-born children of immigrants have
little or no sense of identification with their ancestral homeland's politics.
An immigrant academic (from Iraq) in the USA once told me that his children
(who grew up in the USA) seem to have little sense of their Arab identity
beyond inheriting a taste for some traditional foods. Edward Said was a
famous Palestinian intellectual who spent most of his career in the USA.
His US-born daughter has written that, growing up in the USA, she wanted
to be perceived as an 'all-American' girl and preferred to conceal or even
deny her Palestinian heritage as much as possible. She seems even to
imply that she wanted to support Israel in public *over* the Palestinians
because she knew that's what all 'normal' Americans are supposed to do.
On the other hand, her (more intellectual) US-born brother grew up with a
stronger sense of his Palestinian identity and is more critical of Israel.
My point is that I doubt that, apart from recent immigrants, most US citizens
of Latino heritage will be much influenced by their ancestral homeland's politics
with regard to how they will vote in US elections. Indeed, the Republican
Party hopes to appeal to the conservative social values of many Latinos.
In the autumn of 2001, however, Tariq Ali visited New York City and met
a Latino driver whose taxi was covered with US flags (as a precaution).
They began discussing the recent events of 11 September 2001. Tariq Ali
was surprised when the Latino expressed his approval of the attacks, saying
he believed the hijackers had taken revenge on behalf of every people who
had been oppressed by US imperialism. The Latino said that he came to
the USA from Central America only because a US-backed brutal right-wing
military dictatorship had slaughtered so many of his people. The Latino
said that he felt sorry for the individuals who died on 11 September 2001,
but he did not feel sorry for the United States as a nation.